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Info from Carol Lloyd and Alan Shirley
John Walter Shirley born about
1850 He was a Soldier in the Army. From June 1866 to Oct 1867
he was stationed with the Royal Artillery at Kingston, Canada
as duties were handed over to Canadian troops on independence
from Britain. He came there from 5 Divn. Depot Brigade.
He was promoted to Corporal Royal Artillery. They went to Gibraltar
then Malta and arrived in the Plymouth/Saltash area in Apr.1874.
He must have met his wife, Mary Glanville, between then &
1875. He was given a long furlough from 1st. Feb. to 10 May 1875.
(This could have been for their marriage). By 1889 he
was a Gen Lab possibly a Journeyman and later by 1899 he became
a Mason's Apprentice. Resided in Saltash from ca 1875 to ca 1900.
A cousin said J. W. Shirley died in Cornwall aged 54 years
in abt 1904/5. (This was via enquiries made by my cousin on
behalf of her mother at an Adoption Agency in Detroit, Michigan,
USA)
The family came from in and around Saltash, Torpoint, Landrake,
Plymouth etc, ( St. German's Parish ). Some worked and married
in Stoke Damerel, Devon but eventually moved back to Cornwall.
married Mary Glanville/Hosking. She died in 1895.
Mary was the illegitimate d/o Ann Glanville who was born 1832
in Saltash, Cornwall. (Ann Glanville married John Hosking
in 1856 at Plymouth. He was a fisherman , born 1811 in
Saltash, Cornwall). Mary is listed as head of house and
her husband as away in the census. She was enumerated at Saltash
Cornwall in the 1881 census, husband not in the household
children
1(i). Lucy Shirley - chr 21 June 1878 at Sandown
Isle of Wight, Hampshire to John Walter and Mary Shirley, age
5 in 1881 census of her mother Mary Shirley. She married Thomas
Rowse in October 1899
Lucy had an illigimate son prior to her marriage:
2(i). Gerald Augustus Shirley born May 1895 at Malta.
He became a Naval petty officer and served with Alfred George
Shirley and John Robert Shirley. He died after an accident.
1(ii). Henry (Harry) James Shirley - chr 24 October
1879 at Sandown, Isle of Wight, Hampshire to John and Mary Shirley,
age 12 in mother's 1891 census household; Member of ship's
crew in 1901 census located at the town of Devonport and Hamoaze
Cornwall. Died September1906, at age 27. He was kicked
by horse.
2(iii). Ethel Mary Shirley - born July 1880 at Saltash
Cornwall; (birth registered at St Germans, Cornwall), age 11
in mother's 1891 census household; She married Geo.Henry Keith
on March 1899 in Devonport. (John Walter, her father, was at
wedding.) They lived at Saltash and had 4 children between 1900
- 1904.
2(iv). Alberta Ann Shirley born 1883 in Saltash,
Cornwall, age 8 in mother's 1891 census household; She was a
"Barnado's" child sent from Cornwall to Liverpool,
UK, then onward to Peterborough, Quebec, Canada on the S.S. Vancouver
in 1897 with a group of 137 children. She arrived in Canada 4
days later and was trained as a Domestic servant in the household
of a farmer called Moses in Ontario. She was enumerated as a
domestic servant in the Stephens household in Northumberland,
Ontario Canada in 1901 census, age 18; Alberta moved South and
got work with the Berger family (Corporate Lawyer) and they lived
in Detroit, Michigan. She married Charles R. Kitchen on
10 Feb 1917 at Dearborn, Wayne County Michigan; He was the son
of Walter Kitchen and wife Mary Ethel. Marriage records states
her parents were Walter J. Shirley and Mary.
2(v). Alfred George Shirley born May 1889 at Saltash,
Cornwall, age 1 in mother's 1891 census household; He was living
in workhouse at Torpoint Cornwall in 1901 census. He was sent
shortly afterwards to live & work on cousins farm. Hay Farm,
Sheviock, Torpoint. He joined Royal Navy in Jul.1909. He
married and had 3 children between 1924 - 1928
2(vi). John Robert Shirley born 1891 at Saltash, Cornwall,;
He was living in workhouse at Torpoint Cornwall in 1901 census.
Like his brother Alfred, he was sent shortly afterwards to live
& work on cousins farm. Hay Farm, Sheviock, Torpoint. He
joined Royal Navy in Jul.1909 with his brother John Robert Shirley.
He married and had 5 children - 2 girls, 3 boys
2(vii). Sylvia Eveline Shirley born Jan. 1893
at Saltash Cornwall; He was living in the household of her sister
and brother-in-law, Thomas and Lucy Rowse in 1901 census; listed
as "sister in law" of Thomas Rowse. She married Charles
Bennett. She died Jan. 1962. No children.
The "Depot Brigade" was a part of the Royal Artillery
and was headquartered at Woolwich Kent.
Here's the link to the history of Fort Henry at Kingston Ontario
where J. W. Shirley was clearly posted during his stay. http://www.parks.on.ca/fort/pasthist.htm
J.W. is in either Malta or Gibralter in the 1871 census
from Carol Loyd malloy@globalnet.co.uk
Our branch come from Landrake/Saltash areas.
My Great grandad was a Farmer, with a large family, unsure
as yet to his christian name, probably, John or Robert Shirley.
The elder boys of my Great Grandad, hated farming, and my
Grandad, John Robert (Bob) joined the "Devons" (Army).
His 2 brothers joined the Navy. Don't know names yet.
My grandad, (Bob) left Army to join the Navy also. He met
and married ?----------then settled in Torpoint, with my Uncle
Jack's, Grandma and Grandad Willcocks ? names.
My Grandad's wife died approx 1939. So he left Cornwall to
live in the Isle of Man, with his 2 young sons, Ernest Charles
Robert aged 7 yrs. b.1932 d.1992 (my father) and Frank aged 5
yrs.b1930. This left my Uncle Jack b.1921--still living, Auntie
May b?1923, and Auntie Rosina b.?1925 (Ex School Headmistress
in Littleover, Derby) in Torpoint to complete their education,
they lived with family.
My Grandad Bob, joined H.M.S.Valkirie, a land based operation
on the I.O.M.
Uncle Jack -joined the Army, met and married Elizabeth(Betty)
from Wales.
Auntie May- ? unmarried- I met her once when she visited us
on I.O.M in 1959 (I was 4yrs old) she was not in contact with
family members, and died a few years ago, I believe.
Auntie Rosina- joined the Wrens, married Norman Bucknall,
she was Head Mistress at Comprehensive School in Littleover,
Derby. Where she still lives, has been married for just over
50 years.
My father- Ernie, joined Navy at 15yrs, for 15yrs.He had known
my mother Brenda Marjorie Kneale-Armstrong for years (I.O.M)
they married Dec 1952.
Uncle Frank- when older, joined H.M.S.Valkirie, I.O.M. then joined
a Horse Regiment, as he was small in height. Married Margaret
?
Any help with family info would be appreciated.
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John Walter Shirley