MISC INFORMATION FOR ABIATHER SHIRLEY BRANCH #44
Emails from descendants of Abiather Shirley branch...
Abiathur Shirley was b 1781 according to the family bible of Willard B. Owen, a descendant through Abiathur's daughter Almira. (You sent me a copy of a letter he'd written you, so you probably remember who he is.)
Sarah was b 12 Feb 1812. Got this exact date from a researcher, but can't remember which one just now.
Allen Krieg, another researcher lists Abiathur's children as: Charles, William Barton, John, Abigail, Almira, and of course, Sarah, sometimes called Sally.
John Carmi was born 14 July 1811 according to the dates given on his headstone. He married Caroline Dwelle on 15 Apr 1835 in Sandusky, Erie Co. Ohio. He died 21 May 1858 in Port Clinton, Ottawa County, Oh and she died the next year, 7 Feb 1859 in the same place. They are buried in the Dwelle Cemetery in Ottawa County.
Their children were:
Jacob Twin b 15 Jan 1844
Alfred "Fred" b 1836, d 15 Dec 1853 Dwelle Cemetery
B. F. Benjamin Franklin "Frank" died during or soon after CW
Job Twin 15 Jan 1844 d 16 Jan 1869
Charles Stillman m Mary Jane Warner on Catawba Island, Ottawa Co. OH He died 1 May 1911. She died of MS in 1915
Grace G. b Sep 11, 1877 m James Horth
Sylvester b 24 Oct 1872
Maud Alter b 13 Apr 1885 m James Horth
also This info was taken from Charles Shirley's Pension Records
George "Dode" b 1841 d 1911 Dwelle
Frank This is Benjamin Franklin from above
Lucy Ann b ca 1845 m Clayton McRillis 16 Oct 1883 in Ottawa County, liv Oakfield, Genessee, NY
John Phineas "Fin"
The info on Lucy is on Ancestry.com, plus it and all the info on her sibs is in the Beulah Ramsdell Burke Collection at the Lakeside Heritage Society in Lakeside, Ottawa Co, OH. She was related to Charles Sumner who married Deborah Sherley.
Carmi Joseph b 8 Aug 1850 d 21 July 1925 lived with brother Dode after father died.
Clarabelle m ______ Smothers
In the Civil War
Benjamin Franklin "Frank" Co F 41st Regt. OVI
George "Dode" Co F 139th Regt. OVI
Job twin Co F 3rd Regt OVI
Jacob twin Co F 42st Regt OVI
Charles Co C 24th Regt OVI
Discharged 22 Jun 1864
Wounded in lower leg
Chicamauga, GA 19 Sep 1863
This info on the brothers in the CW was from Marshland to Heartland Vol 15, No. 4, 1991, pg 93. This is a publication of the Ottawa Co. Gen. Society.
Here are some thoughts of my own. All the info says Abiathur and wife came with the Ramsdell Family and names the Ramsdell sons. No mention of any children of Abiathur's til we hear of Sarah being born in 1812 and "the first white child to be born in that area." Then, many people believe that A's son John was John Carmichael and was born in Ottawa County in 1810 or 1811. Wouldn't that make HIM the first child born there? On the 1850 Census, Deborah Sherley said she was b in MA in 1808. There is speculation that she was the daughter of a John Carmichael Sherley who fought in the RW. Carmi Sherley may have been his son rather than A's because he said he was b in NY and supposedly, the Sherleys went from MA to NY and then on to OH.
Well, we can see that in that Deborah was b 1808 in MA, Carmi b 1811 in NY and Sophia Sherley b 1816, probably in OH. So what it looks like to me is that John Carmichael of MA and RW fame may have been the brother of Abiathur and took his family to NY before going to OH. The family has been trying to link Deborah and Sophia to someone for years.
Deborah was said to have a cousin John Sherley in Huron Co. This would be A's son.
Both Carmi Sherley and Deborah Sherley named a son Carmi Sherley, except that Deborah's son d at 3 yrs from TB. But I can see them naming their sons for their father.
After Carmi Sherley died in the cholera epidemic. Deborah and husband Sumner Knapp took in Carmi's daughter Lucy Ann, their niece. This makes perfect sense to me, but may still be totally wrong. But I can see Deb naming her son for her father and brother, and Carmi continuing the family name with his own son Carmi. All good speculation and I have no real proof yet who the parents of Deb, Sophia and Carmi were. Hope someone will sometime!
Let me know if you can add something, or point out a glaring error that I may have missed, holes in my thinking, whatever. I'm open to everything thing. :o)
Take care,
Sharon Mariscal Ahhnon@aol.com