Date: February 16, 2008 06:05AM
It has been a while since I posted a question about our Shirleys
so I thought I would repost incase any new visitors may have
a connection. My ggrandfather Walter was born in Hodge Lane,
Salford in 1848 to Samuel Francis Shirley and Ann Wager Pidcock.
His father Samuel puts his place of birth as London or Middlesex
on censuses, around 1816. Samuel was connected to the Manchester
company of Samuel Shirley & Co, which traded in woolen cloth.
When Samuel and Ann first married they returned (from Manchester)
to London and their first four children were born in Islington.
They had returned to Manchester by 1850. All of the children
except Walter attended a school in Coventry run by Eliza Shirley
who was listed as their aunt. She returned to London when she
gave up the school and was connected to a Mellicent Shirley and
her son Washington but I am not sure how. Walter appears to have
gone to a different school. Walter married three times, my ggrandmother
being Ellen Emma Biddulph who died when my grandfather was born.
We do not know of any children by the previous two marriages.
Although it would be nice to go further back and we believe Samuel
Francis Shirleys father was named Samuel, because my grandfather
was adopted out after his mothers death, it would be lovely to
trace his brothers and sisters if possible. His brothers were
with their father in 1901 census but his sister Sylvia was not.
Perhaps she was with relatives while very young but as she signed
her fathers death certificate she obviously returned to the family
at some stage.
They are Francis Howard Shirley born 1889, Manchester. Possibly
a soldier, we cannot find any marriage but do have a possible
death. Walter Shirley born 1888, married Alice Ann Catterall
and unfortunately died in 1910 before the birth of his son Walter
T Shirley in 1911. Lastly a sister, Sylvia Ann Wager Shirley,
born in Stoke on Trent. Sylvia married George Barlow in 1910
and had several children including Francis Howard,Eric, George,
Emma, Joseph, Sylvia and Vera.
We seem to have a connection to Shirleys in Staffordshire as
our DNA test has shown but as yet that elusive common ancestor
still evades us. It would be wonderful to hear from anyone descended
from my grandfathers brothers or sister but also from anyone
with a link to the family at any stage or perhaps to Samuel Shirley
& Co, Manchester.
All the best, Lisa.
There is evidence that this family descends
from the Shirleys
of Marston upon Dove in Derbyshire
Samuel Shirley, gent,
married Ann _____
1(i). Samuel Francis Shirley chr 15 Sep 1816 at St
George the Martyr Queens Square (Holborn) Middlesex; connected
to the Manchester company of Samuel Shirley & Co, which traded
in woolen cloth; living Christchurch parish Salford, Lancashire
in 1861 census; He was enumerateed as Francis Shirley in London
in 1871 at St mary Islington Middlesex, age 54, widowed. Occupation:
Furniture dealer, with only a boarder in his household. He died
Mar 1898 in Prestwich Dist Lancashire (BMD)
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Samuel Francis Shirley
Name: Samuel Francis Shirley
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1816
Baptism Date: 15 Sep 1816
Father's Name: Samuel Shirley, gent.
Mother's Name: Ann Shirley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Queen Square St George the Martyr
1851 Manchester Directory - Samuel Francis Shirley, Cloth
Agent (Samuel Shirley & Co), Glenfield Place, Salford. Samuel
Shirley & Co, Agents for the sale of West of England &
Cloths, 45 Cannon Street, Manchester.
1869 Bankrupts - Samuel Shirley, of 82 Market Street Manchester
Lancaster, woollen cloth merchant and manufacturer - Edinburgh
Gazette Feb 23 1869 (as reported in the London Gazette)
married Ann Wager Pidcock on 24 Sep 1840; The 1861 census
states she was born in Ashford Derbyshire; She died in 1866,
Marriage: 24 Sep 1840 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire,
Samuel Francis Shirley - of full age Warehouse Man Bachelor of
Ann Wager Pidcock - minor Spinster of Pendleton
Groom's Father: Samuel Shirley, Cloth Factor
Bride's Father: Gilbert Pidcock, Hotel Keeper
Witness: John Cumming Bates; Thomas Gorse
Married by Banns by: Willm. Marsden Vicar
Register: Marriages 1840 - 1841, Page 129, Entry 258
Source: Microfilm held by Manchester Central Library
Liverpool Mercury Newspaper (Liverpool, England), Monday,
January 15, 1866;
DEATHS: Shirley - Jan 11 in Nelson place, Lower Broughton Manchester,
aged 43, Ann Wager, wife of Mr. Samuel Shirley of Manchester.
2(i). Ann Eliza Shirley born Sep 1841 at Islington
MDX (BMD); living in family household in 1861 census. She attended
school in Whitely with brother Gilbert Henry. Shirley. She died
1922, Coventry Warwickshire. She married William George Shiston
in 1867, Wolverhampton Staffordshire.
2(ii). Samuel Francis Shirley born about 1843 London;
living in family household in 1861 census
may have married Eliza Gusterson 21 Jul 1869 Hounslow, MDX.
If so, then....
3(i). Samuel F Shirley. Born 1868, Colchester
3(ii). Walter Edward Shirley. Born 1870, Colchester
3(iii). Ellen Eliza Shirley. Born 1878, Colchester
2(iii). Emma Shirley. Born 30 Sep 1844, Grove Villa,
Highbury London. Bap 13 May 1846, St Mary Islington London.
2(iv). Henry Gilbert Shirley born 30 Sep 1844 at Islington
MDX (BMD); living in family household in 1861 census; Living
West Derby Lancashire in 1881, master tailor. Note his marriage
records says he is the son of James Francis Shirley
married Louisa Appleby 28 Jun 1869 at St. Cuthbert, Lytham,
Lancashire; dau of John Appleby
2(v). Charles Edward Shirley Born 29 Mar 1846, Grove
Villa, Highbury London. Bap 13 May 1846, St Mary Islington London.living
in family household in 1861 census
2(vi). Walter Shirley chr 3 Sep 1848 at Christ Church
parish, Salford, Lancashire; born in Hodge Lane, Salford in 1848;
living in Birkenhead Cheshire in 1881 occupation commercial traveler.
Ancestor of DNA Participant - Kit
married 1) Mary Ellen Moss in 1870, Manchester Lancashire.
Died btw 1871 and 1881.
married 2) Ann _____ btw 1871 and 1881. Born 1856, Wolverhampton
Staffordshire. Died btw 1881 and 1886.
married 3) Ellen Emma Biddulph 9 May 1886, Holy Trinity, Warrington,
Cheshire. Born 1865, Cotenheath, Staffordshire. Died 1895, Wolverhampton
Marriage: 9 May 1886 Holy Trinity, Warrington, Lancashire,
Walter Shirley - 34 Lunatic Attendant Widower of Ashton in Makerfield
Ellen Emma Biddulph - 21 Spinster of Stockport
Groom's Father: Samuel Shirley, Commercial Traveller
Bride's Father: Thomas Biddulph, Farmer
Witness: William Pidcock; Eliza Ann Pidcock
Married by Banns by: C. H. Brown Curate
Register: Marriages 1870 - 1901, Page 80, Entry 160
children (by Ellen)
3(i). Harry Shirley. Born 1871, Chorlton Lancashire.
3(ii). Walter Shirley. Born 10 Apr 1887, Manchester Lancashire.
Bap 7 Aug 1889, St James, Collyhurst, Lancashire. Died 1911,
married Alice Ann Cattarrall in 1910, Warrington Cheshire.
3(iii). Francis Howard Shirley. Born 24 Jul 1889, 31
Nicholson Street, Manchaster, Lancashire. Bap 7 Aug 1889, St
James, Collyhurst, Lancashire. Died
1984, Northallerton, Yorkshire.
3(iv). Sidney Shirley. Born 1891, Manchester Lancashire.
Died 1891, Manchester Lancashire.
3(v). Sylvia Ann Wager Shirley. Born 14 Sep 1892, Shelton,
Staffordshire. Marr George Barlow in 1910, Manchester Lancashire.
Died 1973, Manchester
3(vi). Douglas Malcolm Shirley. Born 5 Aug 1895, Wolverhampton
married Lily Powell in 1920, Dudley, Worcestershire. Died
1977, Dudley, Worcestershire.
2(vii). William Alfred Shirley chr 3 Aug 1850 at St
Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire
Baptisms: 3 Aug 1850 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
William Alfred Shirley - Son of Samuel Francis Shirley &
Baptised by: Hy M. Harmer Curate
Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts,
Page 164, Entry 1306
Source: LDS Film 1545552
married Sarah Eliza Jackson on 21 Jun 1875, Manchester Cathedral
2(viii). Ellen Ruth Shirley chr 9 Jun 1852 at Christ
Church parish, Salford, Lancashire. Married William Henry Chandler
on 9 Feb 1870, Manchester
2(ix). Catherine Bertha Shirley Born 19 May 1853, Cheetham
Lancashire. Bap 9 Aug 1853, Manchester Cathedral Lancashire.
Marr Henry Parker on 8 Mar 1870, Manchester Cathedral Lancashire.
She was a photographer's wife and died age 29 in Ormskirk Lancashire.
2(x). Ada Shirley born 9 Sep 1854 and chr 19 Sep 1854
at St Mark's, Cheetham, Lancashire; She may have died Dec 1854
2(xi). Alice Shirley born 10 Sep 1854 and chr 19 Sep
1854 at St Mark's, Cheetham, Lancashire. She was the surviving
twin and married Hassan Taweel, a cotton merchant on 30 October
1871 at Manchester Cathedral
2(xii). John Thomas Shirley chr 11 Mar 1857 at Chapelry-of-Christ,
Salford, Lancashire. Residence of parents: Park Place, Salford,
Lancashire. ; living with his father in Salford in 1881, Assistant
salesman. age 24. He died aft 1911.
From Margaret Feb 2017 - More info on John Thomas Shirley:
Park Place, Salford, is given as the abode when Bap.at Manchester
Chapel of Christ. In 1871 he is 'Nephew' and visitor aged 15
at Liggins Mill School, Whitley Common ran by his maiden Aunt
Eliza, aged 60. It is of interest that his brother Washington
Shirley 2(xiv?) b.1859 in Lancashire , aged 12 is boarding at
the School. Melicent Shirley had previously been involved with
the School with her son Washington, b 1843. In 1871 Melicent
,aged 59, was living with her son,now aged 28 in Pancras London.
A decade later John is an Assistant Salesman, living at 24 Elton
Street, Broughton, Salford,when he married. His address on marriage
was given as 12, Albert Street, and his occupation is 'salesman'.
By 1891 he is living at 50 Frances St. Salford, a warehouseman
in Grey Calicoes. He is living at 120 Wynford St.in 1901. In
1911 he is a warehouseman (cloth) living at 68, Claremont Road,
Pendleton. Margaret died first in 1921. John , my Gt Grandfather
died ,aged 79 on 5th July 1935 at 135 Eccles Old Road. Probate
granted 20th March 1836; address 3 Swinton Park Road ,occupied
by Arthur Raymond (3iv).
married Margaret Emma Williams on 9 Apr 1882, Stowell Memorial,
Salford Lancashire. Died 1921, Chorlton Lancashire.
3(i). Frederick John Shirley. Born 1883, Salford, Lancashire.
3(ii). Henry Alan Shirley. Born 1886, Salford, Lancashire.
Occup Estate agent Clerk.
married Gertrude Sarah Steel 15 Aug 1912, Weaste, Lancashire.
3(iii). Ada Marguerite Shirley. Born 1890, Salford,
Lancashire. She died in 1967
Ada Marguerite Shirley and husband Reginald South
3(iv). Arthur Raymond Shirley. Born 18 Dec 1900, Salford,
Lancashire. Died 1972, Winchester Hampshire.
2(xiii). Alice Shirley chr 1 Mar 1857 at Chapelry-of-Christ,
2(xiv). Joseph Washington Shirley born about 1859 Manchester;
living in family household in 1861 census; He is living in St
John Coventry in 1871 census; Living with his father in Salford
in 1881, single; agent, age 22. Died aft 1881
2(xv). Shakesphere Shirley. Born 1861, Salford Lancashire.
Died 1861, Salford Lancashire.
Note: Washing Shirley born 1843, father Antonio, Clerk in
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Washington Shirley
Name: Washington Shirley
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1843
Baptism Date: 14 Apr 1843
Father's Name: Antonio Shirley [sic]
Mother's Name: Melicent Shirley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Canonbury St Paul
1878 8 March, Administration (with the Will) of the Personal
Estate of Melicent Shirley formerly of Coventry in the County
of Warwick but late of 26 Ernest-street Regent's Park in the
County of Middlesex Spinster who died 3 September 1877 at 26
Erneet-street was granted at the Principal Registry to Washington
Shirley of 26 Ernest-street Gas Company's Inspector the Residuary